Lip-reader says Trump–Melania Marine One exchange centered on UN escalator incident, not a row
Forensic lip-reader Jeremy Freeman contends the couple discussed the United Nations escalator fiasco, a claim echoed by the Daily Mail in its account of the moment outside the White House.

A forensic lip-reader aligned with UK courts says the Trump–Melania Marine One exchange on the South Lawn was not a heated argument but a discussion about the UN escalator incident this week. The claim rests on expert interpretation of the couple’s gestures as Marine One touched down, with the pair visible through the helicopter’s windows.
The couple were filmed during the descent from New York, where the UN General Assembly escalator episode captured headlines earlier in the week. In the clip, Donald Trump is seen waving a finger at his wife while Melania Trump shakes her head. The footage has circulated online, prompting some critics to compare it with a separate moment in which Brigitte Macron appeared to shove Emmanuel Macron on a tarmac moment years ago. The lip-reader, Jeremy Freeman, said the interaction appeared to revolve around remarks about the UN incident, not a domestic quarrel.
"From my interpretation, I don’t think Donald Trump was having a go at Melania Trump – but at the shenanigans at the UN," Freeman told the Daily Mail. He added that the lip movements suggest Melania spoke about the escalator incident, with Freeman interpreting her words as, "You just continued," and Trump replying, "It was unbelievable. How can you do that." The two appeared to exit Marine One hand in hand, then walked toward the White House across the South Lawn.
The UN escalator episode occurred in New York City earlier in the week, when an escalator used by the Trumps stopped abruptly just as they stepped onto it. Trump framed the incident as part of a broader narrative about what he called a triple sabotage against him, citing a malfunctioning teleprompter and audio problems during a UN address. He later remarked that Melania told him she could barely hear the speech, a point he amplified in remarks that stretched into a wider criticism of the United Nations.
UN officials described the escalator disruption as the result of a safety mechanism being triggered by a videographer who was seen moving on the escalator of the machine’s top steps. Stéphane Dujarric, the UN spokesperson, said the videographer may have inadvertently triggered the mechanism, and that the escalator was reset after the delegation had moved up. He noted the mechanism is designed to prevent objects or people from becoming caught in the gearing.
White House aides acknowledged that the Secret Service was reviewing the incident, but did not provide further comment when asked for additional details. The White House has said the teleprompter issues were ongoing during the UN address, with Trump later arguing that the audio system for world leaders and interpreters in the audience contributed to the confusion.
Trump’s public remarks about the UN and the escalator on Wednesday night carried into a broader political moment. He used the episode to illustrate what he described as a failure of the United Nations to support U.S. aims, saying, in his words, that the UN produced a "bad escalator" and a "bad teleprompter." He also noted that the speech later received favorable reviews, despite the earlier technical difficulties.
In prior comments, Trump described the UN address as a success, telling campaign-style supporters that very few people could have delivered what he did under those conditions. He later posted about the incident on Truth Social, claiming that the UN tragedy involved multiple deliberate acts and demanding an investigation and preservation of security tapes.
The new focus on the Marine One moment reflects a recurring pattern in which Trump’s public-facing moves blend crisis framing with personal appearances. The couple’s handling of the escalator incident and the UN’s response have fed into ongoing debates about tool usage, access to interpreters, and the degree to which leadership images are curated on the world stage. While the lip-reader’s interpretation provides a narrative of cordial concern between the First Couple, the administration has emphasized the UN’s procedural explanations for the escalator and audio issues, underscoring that multiple accounts exist for how events unfolded.
As the Trump administration continues to navigate international critiques and domestic political pressures, observers will watch for additional clarifications from White House officials about what was said in private moments aboard Marine One and how those exchanges may shape public perceptions of the administration’s handling of diplomatic incidents and communications technology at global events.